Drifter Invasion: Nullsec Response

Rhivre 2019-06-29

During a Fireside chat on June 29, The Mittani announced that during the day, an escalation in Drifter activities in nullsec had been observed, with increased spawns from those seen the previous days. The Imperium had 170 structures attacked by these NPC forces today. This has caused them, and others in nullsec, to play a “game of whack-a-mole” using the min/max strategies developed since Wednesday. On previous days, if you defeated the fleet in the system, the fleet was gone. Today, this has changed, with cleared-out systems seeing further spawns hours later. This means that the small number of members who are on the ACLs for structures have had to run between the structures for hours on end to defend them.

This new Drifter invasion has been neither engaging and challenging PvE, nor something that requires high levels of interaction from large fleets. This has caused significant stresses within nullsec empires, as everyone has returned to their home regions in an attempt to combat this new menace. Effectively, this new world event has caused a huge stagnation of player-driven content in NullSec regions. The issues that have been created, however, are not with world events themselves, but with the nature of this particular one. The real risk posed by these NPC assaults is not to structures, but rather to burn-out among the members who are responsible for manning the structures.

On the back of recent questions about new-player retention numbers, this forced exercise in monotony brings longer-term player retention back into the limelight. After all, how long can these players – who are the logisticians, FCs, and support personnel of major content-creating player groups, in case you weren’t aware – keep up with the demands upon their time that this world event has created? It may well reach a point where these players simply decide that the game is beyond unplayable, and leave forever, exacerbating CCP’s issues with maintaining an effective playerbase.

Aryth, Goonswarm’s head financier and member of CSMs 11, 12, 13, and 14, explained that the current situation means that as the nullsec groups are unable to carry out their usual fleets, or deploy against each other, they will instead extract content from high sec. As he explained, “Shared trenches make for very good friends“. The ongoing invasions in nullsec have forced the null blocs to put aside their differences for now, and unite under a common cause.

The major power blocs will be forming a cartel to enact an embargo of raw materials into High Security space. Put simply, the NullSec power blocs will not be sending their jump freighters into Jita with the high end minerals and moongoo used by much of highsec production.

Although the regions in NullSec are not self-sufficient in terms of moongoo, the blocs can trade between each other directly, instead of coming into Jita to stock up.

What this means if you are a highsec producer of ships, Tech II modules, or other goods which use nullsec materials is that you can expect to see reduced availability. If you are someone who buys the finished goods in Jita or other trade hubs, expect to see a lower amount of them listed for sale, and at a higher price. Nullsec will be exporting finished goods, but it will take time to get their producers up and running. Much of the usage of Tech II is from nullsec, so a switch to in-house production will impact those who sell T2 goods in HS as well.

If you are a trader, this is a good time to get into speculation, and raid those stockpiles you have had sitting in some backwater system for the last 10 years (You know, the piles of Zyd you brought back in 2015 on a region buy and never picked up). Many markets have not yet responded, so it is a good time to get in early on some ISK making.

This was also discussed on the Meta Show this evening, with further information being disseminated.

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Comments

  • Chris

    I’m skeptical that all of nullsec is aligned in this endeavor. The general attitude of NC seems to be that this is actually a good thing. Not something to be protested.

    I guess we’ll see.

    June 30, 2019 at 12:18 am
    • Levarris Hawk Chris

      NC probably only feels it’s a good thing because their shit was pushed in by Imperium so far for the last month that they welcome the respite from the brutal ass pounding.

      June 30, 2019 at 8:39 am
      • Nah. The general attitude about that “war” is we don’t really care. We don’t need any respite. That’s a major cultural difference most goons fail to grasp. I can’t speak for horde but PL is similar.

        You also forget, this affects any of our structures too. You only wiped tribute. We have many more.

        June 30, 2019 at 2:09 pm
        • Garreth Vlox Chris

          “The general attitude about that “war” is we don’t really care. We don’t need any respite” Yeah we know, they didn’t care so much they posted an average of 2-3 reddit posts a day telling everyone how much they didn’t care.

          June 30, 2019 at 7:05 pm
  • John Newell

    Wonderful response. Thank you. Don’t let this turn into wow please god.

    Hopefully they dont just redistribute moons.

    June 30, 2019 at 12:51 am
  • John Newell

    Blue doughnut coalition please.

    June 30, 2019 at 1:50 am
    • Saeger1737 John Newell

      So your pretty much being apart of test alliance

      June 30, 2019 at 8:49 pm
  • Matheus Pfitscher

    A yes, sure, not a single soul will try to sell stuff that high-sec wants to buy. The price may rise, but if someone wants to buy, someone will sell.
    And by “nullsec” you may be referring to TEST and Goons trading with each other.

    June 30, 2019 at 2:36 am
    • Rammel Kas Matheus Pfitscher

      I heard last night the discord channel included luminaries such as Gobbins, Hedliner and Sort Dragon. I don’t think you understand the gravity of the situation if ALL of them are making plans to get at hisec to keep their pilots entertained. The level and quality of their average line members may be quite scary if you haven’t faced them before.

      June 30, 2019 at 8:20 am
      • Damian Bakay Rammel Kas

        That’s an overstatement

        June 30, 2019 at 4:24 pm
      • Matheus Pfitscher Rammel Kas

        I’m not focus on the war part, but on the stupid idea that you can control market forces at will and that all industrialists and miners on every block are little puppets that do anything their masters says.

        June 30, 2019 at 8:33 pm
        • Saeger1737 Matheus Pfitscher

          It’s pretty easy to control people who are afraid of wardeccing, kinda made it easier to setup power block Monopolies when CCP changed the war Dec dynamic… The little guy will always be screwed now…. And this is what the social crowd wanted

          June 30, 2019 at 8:53 pm
        • John Newell Matheus Pfitscher

          You would be surprised how easy it is in new eden to make drastic changes to the economy.

          I know a single person that cornered the market on plates.

          I once drove the price of archon carriers up by 500 million isk in my region by simply buying carriers fitting them and moving them for sale in my home station. I wasnt even trying to effect there price i was just trying to make isk. In the end i couldent continue doing it because my profit margin got too low.

          That was just me. Imagine what the entirety of nullsec can do.

          Try not to think of them as puppets just because they have aligned goals and work together to achieve them.

          June 30, 2019 at 9:49 pm
        • You might want to read up on OTEC. That was the last time we all ganged up to control the market.

          Also market right now is doing reasonably well because we are allowed to sell our raw ore and moon goo in jita. If Mittens says that’s no longer allowed the supply is going to change quite substantially.

          Add to that that we can easily disrupt any entity not keeping their end of the deal by simply preventing them from mining.

          July 1, 2019 at 6:23 am
        • Alaric Faelen Matheus Pfitscher

          Most players in null will happily adhere to an embargo. Those that don’t will be kicked, hunted, and thrown back to high sec to suffer the same fate as the rest of high sec.
          It’s better to be us than them, so only the foolish will not comply. Besides, never underestimate the loathing most null sec players feel for high sec care bears. We mostly view them as whiny, entitled, lazy, and cowardly hiding behind CONCORD’s skirt.
          If there is one thing that will unite line members across null sec- it is the wholesale murder of high sec just for the epic tears it will generate.
          And we also know that it’s the best way to turn the screws on CCP. Care bears themselves are merely pawns and paying for the privilege at that.

          July 1, 2019 at 7:39 pm
      • chimpy Rammel Kas

        I get the idea of the high sec embargo, but i don’t understand how the embargo keeps line members entertained? Surely it just means ceasing haulage to high sec? That’s hardly exciting stuff?

        June 30, 2019 at 8:49 pm
        • John Newell chimpy

          The embargo is keeping me entertained and i dont need to do anything but watch.

          The average line member will get to shoot highsec structures and feast on high seccer tears.

          This is where they will be entertained.

          June 30, 2019 at 9:43 pm
  • Moomin Amatin

    “World War CCP”

    I’ll get my coat.

    June 30, 2019 at 7:45 am
    • Guilford Australis Moomin Amatin

      If you’re headed to the valet, grab my top hat, too, if you don’t mind.

      June 30, 2019 at 8:04 pm
    • John Newell Moomin Amatin

      The crusade.

      June 30, 2019 at 9:50 pm
  • UnknownPerson onGoogle

    Carebears from high sec are gloating about the Drifters in Null Sec but they will be the ones crying once they no longer get null resources.

    June 30, 2019 at 8:53 am
    • Captain Jeep-Eep UnknownPerson onGoogle

      Or if the invasion spreads beyond Nullsec…

      June 30, 2019 at 5:08 pm
    • Guilford Australis UnknownPerson onGoogle

      Indeed. Do highsec carebears do anything but Reddit-warrior about the travails of nullsec while congratulating themselves for their moral superiority?

      June 30, 2019 at 8:02 pm
    • That’s assuming nobody cheats the cartel.

      June 30, 2019 at 8:42 pm
  • Sylphinja the Dark Rose

    So, from what i can read, player versus player content is easy mode and pve aspect burns people out?

    June 30, 2019 at 9:41 am
    • AI’s don’t get tired and never log out, individual players do.

      June 30, 2019 at 7:04 pm
      • Saeger1737 Garreth Vlox

        Description of the Terminator…. Are they just agents of skynet now?

        June 30, 2019 at 8:50 pm
  • The14th

    Do you guys really think everybody is gonna get on board this new OTEC? There are so many more people involved in the moons now, and if there is slow uptake on the system are they all gonna sit back and wait for possible isk in the future or take the guaranteed profits in Jita?

    June 30, 2019 at 8:45 pm
  • All of nullsec declaring war on highsec residents and burning as many carebear structures to the ground as possible would be highly entertaining. We can measure the effectiveness of our campaign by how much PCU drop we can create over a few months. Purge the game of filthy casuals until the only people paying money for EVE are non-morons and CCP are forced to listen to us and un-fuck their game or just shutter the whole operation?

    June 30, 2019 at 11:15 pm
    • asonofSocrates Ganthrithor

      or they are forced to shutter the game because people trying to learn the game get fed up with arrogant long timers who think they own the game matrix when in effect it is owned by a corporation. CCP is trying to save the game but if anyone kills it for everyone it will be the nullsec guys.

      July 1, 2019 at 3:01 am
      • How exactly are they trying to save the game by making people burn out due to forced boring as hell content? Chasing drifters is even less engaging than fucking entosising and that shit is so boring that usually the only entertainment is to plan a slow but oh so painful death for fozzie (in game obviously :p ).

        Have you ever seen CCP market the high sec. Sit here and mine for hours on end and then make 100k ISK. Ah the excitement. They are always using 0.0 action to market the game which means that even CCP infested by the elite pvp shits understands that it is the big strategic fights and the block fights that are attractive. Not 20 guys ganking a procurer in some random belt.

        July 1, 2019 at 6:18 am
      • Honestly, shuttering the game would probably be the best outcome at this point.

        July 2, 2019 at 3:48 am
  • Punky260

    I’m not saying the event is good or anything, BUT…
    seeing NullSec capsuleers unite because of the drifters makes me think: What if that was the plan from the beginning? 😀

    July 1, 2019 at 8:56 am
  • Kravshera Kemma

    see on top of the an embargo of raw materials into High Security space. they need to suicide gank high sec mining fleets and grab there raw materials as well.. =)

    July 1, 2019 at 12:13 pm
  • Nighter3D

    I wonder what CCP’s agenda is. It seems very unlikely that is just a minor poke and it very clearly is showing little regard for the complaints. If anything they just upped the ante the moment null-sec started to show organization against the drifters.CCP took the wheel and it is clear they are trying to accomplish something by force and i doubt even the best plan will cause them to stop what they are doing. If they indeed want to hurt null-sec, they will and one can honestly do little about it and those burning themselves out are simply trying to beat that which was not meant to be beaten.

    This seems like a scenario where an ancient saying may be appropriate. I believe it went: A reed that bends in the wind is stronger than an Oak that breaks in the storm. This a storm and it kind of looks like Null-sec is so set in their ways they’d rather break than bend.

    Anyway that is my 2 cent. Interesting times are coming. People aren’t happy now, but the true result/goal isn’t known yet so who knows. I doubt CCP is just doing this for s**ts and giggles or to stress players out though. This seems way to serious to just break the unwritten “No intervention” rule for.

    July 1, 2019 at 7:36 pm