Espionage in EVE is typically done to provide strategic intelligence to the alliance leadership or for raw profit. But that’s not entertaining enough for the GIA. Not only do our agents serve an intelligence function, they keep an ear to the ground to acquire the finest ‘chat porn’ – the posts of our enemies, wailing and gnashing their teeth in the face of our war machine. Over the years, we’ve collected an inordinate amount of chat porn. Some of it is fairly mundane – the bromides and rationalizations people typically ward themselves with to cope with defeat. But every now and then, truly exceptional examples crop up. For your sadistic enjoyment, they are reprised here: the Archive of Tears. If you’re not a griefer at heart, you might want to stop reading; This isn’t pretty.
FIRMUS IXION: GOD SAVE US FROM GOONSWARM
In March 2007, the coalition was preparing to invade Querious and oust Firmus Ixion (FIX), a Band of Brothers vassal alliance. The GIA was lucky enough to have director-level access to FIX’s forums, which meant that we could follow the every move of their leadership. The FIX directorate got word of the Swarm’s plans to invade and grief them, and began discussing what to do. Under normal circumstances, one would never risk director-level access just to show of chat porn, but what we discovered wasn’t just an alliance on the verge of a failure cascade. We had inspired a crisis of faith. A seemingly normal thread, begun by the leader of FIX, swiftly became a place for director Creed Richards of Dark Centauri Inc to unburden his soul.
FIX’s leader announces the pending invasion:
Ok so Malindah kindly passed me this intel today from a source (reliable)
“Goons are being recalled to Agil. Not for any specific op but in general – against FIX. There is Mittani’s sticky thread on their forums giving a lot of details about FIX – names of their leaders, officers, known directors and so on. Mittani is telling his goons to scam them, harass and do other… not very nice things He also listed complexes, choke points and other important info about Querious.”
Be on the alert for scams and other such crap and stuff like you really shouldnt have to deal with in an on-line game, keep logs too incase it crosses a line!
Do not deal with anyone claiming to be an alt of leadership or anyone else etc etc, basically just take extra care in everything and be ready for it.
Yesterday I was contacted by an alt claiming to belong to Laird about cheap POS’s after passing it onto Mal he then claimed to be Breakerjoe’s alt.
I will put out a less specific alliance mail to this effect too.
Creed Richards begs for the Almighty to intervene to save his spaceships:
What has become of a game that would drive people this low? What has become of honor? Will such people be allowed to complete their goals using such dishonorable and underhanded and downright mean tactics. I pray not.
In the SA war, even in the CODA war, I have never heard of our advarsaries going this low. Again, what has become of honor, even among advarsaries?
EVE is become a game that is very difficult to play these days. Between being very poor in PVP, being cruely ganged upon by the Goons, RL needs, and to top it off hearing about CCP’s decision to give suicide gankers the means and rewards to search for big payoff targets in areas meant to be safe (see my rant in the relevant thread in the general forum) makes my sorrow all the more unbearable.
There is not much I can do for my corp or alliance these days, except pray. IMHO, God has delievered FIX many times from the brink since the first SA war. The prayer I posted above 9cg station has been answered. I thank Him for that, and I hope God will answer it now, and defeat those who wish to undermine us so cruelly and thoughtlessly.
It is one thing to fight against BOB and allies because of ideals. (they aren’t perfect either, and I don’t always like the manner they conduct themselves, regardless of recent allegations), but to go this low…It’s just unexcusable.
I hope we can be lifted up, strengthened in resolve, Christ-like in mutual charity, and fight this. Fight with honor, fight with conviction, and make a good accounting of ourselves amd Gpd willing, rout this foe. I hope I could be a little more like that, and the time available to do that, maybe I could. But it’s hard…JAKD and FIX has suffered much these past months, some wounds self inflicted, and they have yet to fully heal.
We need to get back on our feet, and stand tall again, even in the face of such darkness.
God save FIX.
Creed
ps…Please forgive this little emotional piece, recent events and reading have brought my spirits down and I needed to vent a bit.
In the end, Jesus did not save Firmus Ixion. Alas!
EXECUTIVE OUTCOMES: CIRCULAR FIRING SQUAD
Executive Outcomes (EXE) has been one of KenZoku’s most loyal pets. Until the final days of the Second Great War, they held space in Period Basis and comprised a significant portion of KenZoku’s fleets. Their leader, Mo’Chusile, consistently tried to put a brave face on the mounting losses of KenZoku and EXE. His updates on the progress of the war became infamous for the way in which they glided over the failures of their side. After the debacle in H74, Rivisa, one of the EXE membership, had enough with Mo’Chusile’s flawed updates and spoke truth to power. Perhaps unsurprisingly, this unleashed a classic fit of e-rage, culminating in Rivisa being kicked from the alliance.
Mo’Chusile’s terrible attempt to spin H74:
We tried to take H74 and the plan was good, execution was terrible for multiple reasons. One of the big reasons was that everyone was informed very late, on the day of the op just a few hours before about the amount of tower spam we had to do. The next reason was that all tower teams (aside from the exe team, because we are awesome) either cheated 😉 (AAA put up 4 smalls and one large) or failed in getting the 5 towers up in time. Grade of failure was different, but at the end of the night, instead of 45 towers standing safely for US TZ and with timers for saturday euro TZ, we ended up with 29 standing, and 10 of them having terrible timers for US TZ the same night, so the next morning we had 19 towers up. The next failure was to dismiss the fleet for the night less than enthusiastically and not communicating to our pilots that with a good effort on the next day we still had a safe tower majority. After that, it was all over before it even started.
All in all, we beat ourselves there. A little more careful planning and preparation, everyone (but us :smug:) should have spent some more attention to dropping towers over partying on TS while shooting offline PL towers, and the first day would have ended totally different. And on day two, the coalition had a whopping 160 people in system in the morning, which hadn’t been a problem for us in before at all…
Anyways, to make sure the next thing we do goes right and isn’t hampered by silly mistakes from the start, we will take time to prepare it properly. In the mean time we will defend key targets when necessary, and otherwise see to it that we rack up the most kills possible in the most fun ways. And then in a week or two we will strike again.
P.S.: The one good thing H74 showed was that during EU timezone (thursday 1700) we are still able to outnumber and control the hostiles. So now we just run the next one a little better
Rivisa calls out Mo’Chusile:
This isn’t a “change this or I’m leaving post”, I’m going in either event (probably shortly after Mo reads this), its just an honest (e.g. blunt and rude) assessment of where EXE has got itself in the last 5 months.
Its gone up today, not just as a response to your post (though it provides a nice framework upon which to make my points) but to spare you having it splashed all over COAD. Saturday it might made it there, Sunday at an outside. Monday? Nope its safe. We are now completely irrelevant, goons don’t even want to laugh at us anymore.
Deluded, syncofantic fanboys (o/ warone) can stop reading here, and just hit reply and splurge their vapid drivel now. Don’t quote anything, unless you’re actually responding to a point. Honestly, people will realise it’s me your responding to; when was the last time you saw anybody else question Mo’s judgement. Seriously, when?
I pondered where to start with this. The fact that this latest clusterfuck took place on Friday, and you did the usual “Mo thing” e.g. hide and say nothing then leave it a couple of days and then post this glib dismissal at 2200 on Sunday night seems a good, if not pivotal, point to address 1st. This (circle jerking on the very rare occasion we win a fight, and hiding when it frequently goes tits-up) is almost the exact opposite of leadership, in case you’re confused about what you’ve been doing.
Originally Posted by [OFE] Mo’Chuisle
We tried to take H74 and the plan was good, execution was terrible for multiple reasons. One of the big reasons was that everyone was informed very late, on the day of the op just a few hours before about the amount of tower spam we had to do. The next reason was that all tower teams (aside from the exe team, because we are awesome) either cheated 😉 (AAA put up 4 smalls and one large) or failed in getting the 5 towers up in time. Grade of failure was different, but at the end of the night, instead of 45 towers standing safely for US TZ and with timers for saturday euro TZ, we ended up with 29 standing, and 10 of them having terrible timers for US TZ the same night, so the next morning we had 19 towers up. The next failure was to dismiss the fleet for the night less than enthusiastically and not communicating to our pilots that with a good effort on the next day we still had a safe tower majority. After that, it was all over before it even started.Oh so it was just a mistake, and lessons will be learned and it all be different next time? This would be more credible if they weren’t the same mistakes that have been made over and over since February. Time and time again, fleets have stood down only to lose the moon have just taken. Seriously why will it be different next time, beyond that fact that you’re saying so; are you going to see the FC’s suddenly stop being concerned about logging off? Different FC’s? Or is it just blind, desperate hope on your part?
All in all, we beat ourselves there. A little more careful planning and preparation, everyone (but us :smug:) should have spent some more attention to dropping towers over partying on TS while shooting offline PL towers, and the first day would have ended totally different. And on day two, the coalition had a whopping 160 people in system in the morning, which hadn’t been a problem for us in before at all… What are you smug about??? That EXE didn’t display horrific incompetence? Jesus H Christ, you have to be truly desperate to clutch that that tiny little straw. Actually I hope you are, it’s that kind of despair that might get you to reassess what you personally have been doing wrong, and maybe how you could do it better.
Anyways, to make sure the next thing we do goes right and isn’t hampered by silly mistakes from the start, we will take time to prepare it properly. In the mean time we will defend key targets when necessary, and otherwise see to it that we rack up the most kills possible in the most fun ways. And then in a week or two we will strike again. So the same people, will try the same things, in the same places while clinging to the delusion that this will produce a different outcome? That’s not faith, it’s mental illness.
P.S.: The one good thing H74 showed was that during EU timezone (thursday 1700) we are still able to outnumber and control the hostiles. So now we just run the next one a little better 😉 Confirmed this with the russians have you? Cos I’m pretty bloody certain that if they aren’t interested, EXE won’t be doing anything, just like Friday. I’ve saved our convo log from Friday, in case you may have forgotten why I would reach that conclusion. Which brings me to neatly to….
I dont care about the outcome Erm, why not? There are only 2 outcomes; winning and losing, everything else is semantics.
It’s trolling to tell someone how shite they are, if you can’t offer some constructive criticism on how they could be less shite. So here’s a list of where to start.
Molle/BoB’s leadership Since Z-M there have only been 2 reasonable conclusions that are supported by the indisputable facts. Recap them for you shall I? (fake edit who’s fucking writing this, yoda??). PB was lost in a weekend. It is a record for the fastest fall of a sov 4 constellation in eve history. Aside from being yet another example of making a plan and not sticking to it (“let PB fall, focus on Querious” 2 days later “oh shit DEFEND PB”)
This came about because Molle called for the jammer to be cycled. Either he is frighteningly incompetent and so continuing to follow an agenda of which is set by him is this. Or an almost equally awful conclusion, it was done on purpose to sabotage any defence, the rationale being if the carebears have no where to rat / mine then they will turn up to ops (which never works btw, people who turn up are always the same faces; having no where to rat or mine doesn’t change peoples preferences and doesn’t increase participation and hideously self inflicted defeats do hurt participation).
Lack of direction: Vague, platitudinous bullshit like you just posted about “in a couple of weeks something unspecified” is exactly what I’m talking about. Pick a goal for fucks sake, preferably an achievable one that can be acted on soon. There are plenty of low sec high ends that still with in the tactical capability of this alliance, to be taken & towered by EXE for EXE’s benefit. It wouldn’t stop you asking BoB for manpower while doing this. What might stop you is the answer would, once and for all, define whether they see EXE as a partner or a servant. Afterall, noone wants to find out that it’s not actually dark, it’s that your head is stuck in an elephants butt.
Op participation While the goal of getting 50 EXE dread’s is both laudable, and shows a real commitment on your part (subsidising it as massively as you have), I think you’ll find the Wright brothers focused on staying in the air for a bit, before planning the the business class menu for the 1st transatlantic flight. You don’t get 50 EXE pilots in a fleet now so perhaps that might be a better goal to pursue before you even concern yourself what they turn up in.
How are you going to do that? Well not the way you have been doing it, cos muttering in corp and the odd, angry alliance mail doesn’t cut it. Take advice from Machiavelli, if you can’t be loved and feared, the latter will do the trick every time. If your not feeling ruthless enough to start kicking the parasites, delegate it to someone who has the moral conscience of a dog on a croquet lawn (o/ speedie), who will.
Lastly one of the best things about this alliance was always the industrial backbone and the fleet shop. If I have heard correctly, then you fell out with Issy and she is to depart us accompanied by a significant chunk of the industrial guys & gals. If this is a personal issue between the 2 of you, them Mo, you need to grow a pair then kiss & make up. Yup, Issy is a bit emo, but that who she is, get used to it.
Why? Cos time after time she get the job done, and believe it or not it is the outcome the counts.
Mo’Chusile spergs at Rivisa, then kicks him out of the alliance:
Rivisa, your fantastical analysis is extremely stupid. You seem to have the memory of a goldfish. You might remember that before an idiotic weekend in I1Y, we had been taking systems, not losing them. There was exactly three bad weekends in this whole war, the first one was in february when bob lost a titan and a mothership stupid ways, which lead to the 2 months wolfpax~ period. This did a lot of damage, but you have to get down from your high horse of bullshit and emo and realize that the people in BoB are human too, and that the whole losing your alliance and all your sov due to one guy pushing a single button does not give you a phantastical motivation. Add a desastrous weekend on the field to it, and yeah it might lead to a bad decision in hindsight, but they weren’t out to fuck your emo ass, it’s just that in a situation like this slight demotivation might occur and result in a decision to be wolfpax~ only.
After we started to actually try to defend sovereignty again we did actually take 49, 3bk and were on our way to take i1y. If you would have actually paid attention during that time, you would have noticed that the russians did not outnumber us at any point during that. If you read the forums, you will also see that before PB was attacked we were planning with losing it, not because BoB or anyone didn’t want to help, but because the upkeep was overworking our logistical teams for no gains at all, because we weren’t able to fucking use the space anyways (can’t utilize the sov 4 because everything around it was hostile). Unless you were one of the people (you were not) operating the well over 70 towers that we needed just to keep our skeleton tower route to empire open to actually operate with sov down there, you should probably not try to argue this point. Oh, BoB offered to pay us for the necessary 50-70 additional towers to fortify the systems btw, which we declined, because it would just have meant that we had to spend even more work on a constellation that didn’t offer us anything in this situation.
So, that leaves I1Y and H74, which arguably were a mistake started on the last weekend in I1Y (not being content with controlling one system for 2 weeks straight, going for more) and then went on in an emo phase until H74 (you know that on the second day in H74, when we still had tower majority, we lost the system to 160 hostiles? That’s not a number that we had a problem with for 2 months).
So, that’s the terrible three weekends. In between we had weeks where we controlled the area. Where we were laughing about the goon posts about how they need to get their participation up to. But I guess that’s where the memory of a goldfish comes in…
Oh, and about Issabella:
She built jack shit. The shop was running before she was even in corp. It has already been taken over and will continue to run, this time without regular outbursts in alliance chat or on irc because someone else was doing terrible things like daring to offer to sell ships too. What you are saying is an insult to at least 10-20 people in the corp who have worked harder. longer and better and spent more of their personal assets for the corp than Issabella would be able to hope in the next 24 months. In fact, everything our industrial side does is running of the work and the funds of people that you probably don’t even know the name of because they are not emo drama queens. The very fact that you even think that she was important to the function of this corp shows that in fact she was only important to further her own childish need of constant validation.
You should probably go join her, and don’t forget to tell everyone who wants or doesn’t want to listen about how terrible you have been treated and how the corp and the alliance will now fail because of you leaving. After all, Issa does too, and everyone is having a good laugh at it.
Mo’Chusile posts occasionally on the somethingawful.com forums, and after this was leaked he did his level best to convince everyone that his spergout was not, in fact, an act of rage or a loss of control.
KENZOKU: WE DON’T MAKE MISTAKES, EVER
Nothing is as fatal to an alliance as a refusal to admit fault. KenZoku (RKZ) is a prime example of this. RKZ recruited from its vassal alliances over many years, seeking two prime attributes in prospective pilots: killboard statistics and shameless sycophancy. Of any of the forums I’ve read, I’ve never encountered a group of people more averse to criticism. The core of their identity as an alliance is being “the best”, which apparently translates in practice to being utterly unable to admit or even discuss fault without flinging ad hominems willy-nilly. The irony piles on when you read the following thread, where a director and leading light in the member corporation Evolution – whose entire gimmick is evolving, adapting, and making Darwin references – gets progressively more upset at the regular membership daring to point out that Something Is Wrong in the aftermath of losing the Great War. Rather than confronting the problem, the RKZ directorate begins kicking those who voiced dissent out of the alliance.
Fibrewire, a regular member, tries to post an analysis of reasons why KenZoku lost the Great War:
/me puts emo hat on
Well, here the story… I was this close -> || <- to calling it quits in EVE due to fundamental strategic problems our alliance was facing (and not fixing), as well as RL problems combined with disgust for what goons have done to this once fine, respectful game (As well as other games). But at work today, I was browsing the forums and read Molle’s post about Pulling the Plug, and did some long, hard thinking. I’ve decided to keep playing EVE to experience this new chapter in our alliance’s long, long history. I couldn’t agree more with Molle’s decision to pull out. We need a completely new fresh start, and need to forget about old tactics that don’t work in EVE today.
I’ve debated and argued back and forth with people within my own corp about problems this alliance was facing and decided to make a proper post about what we need to do to fix it. Originally this post was supposed to be a farewell thread and to go to BNC’s forums only. But since then I’ve had a change of heart, and I feel it’s important enough to share with the whole alliance………..
1. BoB needs to either make some drastic, drastic, changes to the way it startegizes or close the doors on the alliance. This is very hard for me to say, because I know, and will always know, that BoB are the most talented smartest pvp’ers in the history of this game, and to close the doors would be a real shame. But either we need to fix our problems and stop spinning our wheels, or stop wasting everyones time and just part ways.
(Molle, please don’t think I’m calling you out, I’m only trying to give constructive critisism…)
2. Molle needs to pump people up. Molle and Molle alone can do this, people look up to him, and respect whatever it is he has to say. None of this “full regroup – bs > dictors > else” crap that doesn’t pump people up. He needs to (as well as other leaders) explain fully what we are doing wrong and how to fix it, as well as what’s at stake. Flashy text required
3. We need to work much, much, closer with our allies. Look at how goons work with rzr, pl and nc. They don’t distance themselves from each other and run on different ts/gangs. This is key to forming up the numbers we need to combat the hostile blobs.
4. Enough of this cap alts on standby bullshit. BS dont win wars, it’s not 2007 anymore. The days of winning wars with BS is over, this is pretty evident with how many titans the hostiles have. We were able to win back Delve in the first war with bs’s because the hostiles had a total of maybe 3-5 titans or something. Nowadays they have more like 30, and we lose more bs fleets to dd’s than to proper fights. Showing off a massive cap fleet to your enemies face is crucial to beating their morale, and we all know goons (As well as us tbh) only login when their morale is high.
5. You cant tell people 1 day before an op to get your caps on your mains, it takes longer than that to move caps around. You need at least a week. FC’s wonder why we get 20 dreads online when they call for dreads on mains. Well that’s because only a few select people have the schedule and ability to move their dreads in position on such a short notice. Leadership needs to give the rest of us at least 1 week to get corp/personal dreads in position and ready to attack. It takes alot longer than most people realize to move caps around, due to RL schedules, hostile camps etc.
6. Capitals need to be used on mains in all major offensive and defensive operations in BoB, GBC, -A-, S-E, ROL-, and atlas. This needs 110% commitment on everyone’s part. That in turn leades to..
7. No more 50% commitment on things, not 80% not 90% not 100%, but 110% commitment on everything we do. We have a shit ton of enemies to fight and the minute we start loosening the grip on what we’re trying to accomplish, the enemies are going to pounce on that opportunity with everything they’ve got.
8. No more only pinging once for an op… People come home and see there was a ping 30min ago and no one talked after that on irc, so they figure we either have enough numbers or we disbanded. Pinging constantly might be an annoyance but if you all want to start winning, and I know you do, it’s necassary. Some people complain that pinging for an op in the middle of the night is annoying to the people that want to sleep, well I say to them that maybe they should leave the #bob channel or mute their speakers at night so they arent woken up… Common sense. We may also try creating an emergency channel for people to join while they sleeping and that channel can only be pinged when a titan is tackled or something. Also, some people complain that we shouldn’t ping constantly for an op in the middle of a Saturday afternoon… that’s rubbish, no one’s asleep, you can ping all you want.
9. Titan pilots need to get the shit smacked out of them, and if they can’t be online anymore give the titan to someone else to use, they are dead weaght in our alliance. This is pretty obvious I think, and if they are personal titans, whch most are, there should be someone you consider a friend in the alliance that you can give the titan too, and possibly the character, for the time being. Having 1 or 2 titans at our disposal is useless. We all know that titans work best in groups and can protect each other from getting tackled in this way. Lets shape this up, without positive titan support we can’t make much of defense or offense.
10. Lastly, and most importantly, there doesn’t seem to be any sense of urgency when we schedule a regroup. It’s sort of like… “be there if you want guys.” While this may be a game and we don’t want to sound like its serious business, people put alot of work and effort into making sure logistics are kept up, and we need to follow through on that. If more time and effort is put into making sure everyone knows what’s at stake, you will get alot more people to show up.
In conclusion, fixing 1 or 2 of these problems won’t fix the overal crisis our alliance is facing, we must fix all of them. If this gets leaked on CAOD, I don’t give a shit because I want you all to know and understand these problems we are dealing with. Leadership needs to fix these problems and work more closely with the rest of you, telling you what the problem is, how we’re going to fix it, and to get off their high horses (I’m sorry, it’s only a select few of you) and make sure YOU, the grunts, the powerhouses of the alliance, can make it happen.
I really want you all to think about what I’ve stated above, and disagree with me if you want, but we need some positive, constructive conversations about how we are going to fix the crisis this alliance is in.
And is immediately shot down by Waagaa, the Evolution director:
Man, that’s some pretty long post. 50% of it is incorrect and 50% is trivial.
Some of the membership refuses to be spoofed:
i don’t think 50% of it is incorrect, maybe we should get our head out of the clouds, and actually start realizing that our so called ‘pvp elite alliance’ gets lead into traps, our reinforcements picked off by PL and generally torn apart on regular occasion, what happened to evolution?
and why are we so ridiculous in the way we use allies, the NC arent a single alliance rather a collection of well oiled alliances working towards a goal, im not saying we nap the whole of eve and lets face it not many want us, but we’ve always been about BOB first allies secondary, and its just not realistic anymore. I for one wouldn’t mind having a strong ally as an equal, and achieving things together, theres no room for a single space holding alliance these days with part time allies.
But sycophancy is a hard habit to break:
Guys we did nothing wrong here, we had good days and bad days, we were playing outnumbered and many times outgunned. I think it was the first time that Bob actually needed a good ally-partener.
We gave up max for many reasons, but in conclusion we went to help AAA to fight goons. When we lost delve sov and our capital fleet trapped into PR, AAA never came and said hold we gona work together later. We took 49-u so AAA and allies can stage there and start the offensive, they didnt stage there but were comming and leaving. In my eyes it is simple, they didnt wanted to engage with full commitment and couldnt be better for them having bob fooling around querius and use us as meatshields.
Hail to molle and other directors that took the decision and pulled out that plug that was killing us.
I will be more than happy to see dead weight from bob corps leaving. Bob are still one of the best alliances among the game with holding space or without.
Waagaa seems a little mad:
I for one think that we need to be more elitist, not less.
Becoming less elitist has alienated a bunch of really good players that used to lead us to victories.
So fuck weak allies, be lean, small and effective instead of bloated, generic and stupid.
When I joined BoB, you got shouted down for being stupid, now I’m being shouted down for calling people stupid. That’s where we went wrong. We started accepting mistakes from people.
Fucking weak to be honest.
Hence the OP is shit, it addresses the symptoms, not the root-cause.
The proles aren’t buying it:
It’s thinking like you are that got us to where we are now Waagaa. Welcome to 2009. It used to work, but this isnt 2007 anymore, get over yourself.
Yaay, one of KenZoku’s primary Fleet Commanders through the Great War, posts something critical of the leadership. We don’t know what it was because it was immediately censored, the entire post deleted. Waagaa rages in reply:
Oh by the way, impressive rewriting of history Yaay, I might just dig up some IRC logs at home, because you’re contradicting yourself on the hilarious way you fucked up and managed to suicide 10 dreads knowing full well that the enemy had caps undocking about 10 minutes before they actually jumped in on you.
You held your ground and warped down to the jammer, knowing their caps were undocked because you wanted the jammer down and thought you were going for a titan kill, not because you didn’t know they were undocking.
Dianabolic, another KenZoku leader, joins Waagaa in freaking out and kicks Yaay out of his corporation for his temerity:
Suffice to say I have revoked Yaay’s access and he shall shortly be finding himself corp-less.
Which is a shame, because I’ll at least try to remember yaay as someone who enjoyed playing, not specifically winning, the game, but between his posts here and on CAOD he can find somewhere else to trample his finger diarrhoea.
Apparently they took themselves so seriously when they dubbed their alliance ‘omnitpotence itself’ that even the slightest criticism from the membership is an existential threat to the alliance. Rather than evolving, RKZ seems to have cornered the market on stagnation.
That’s it for this excerpt from the Archive; we have tons of this stuff lying around. War just isn’t the same without delicious chatporn and the tears of your foes.
Commentary
In the context of the previous two columns – the History of the Second Great War – the stark truths expressed in these old archives from EXE and RKZ line members are all the more disturbing. What the old BoB crew refused to listen to or learn from was the truth; they tried repeating their mistakes again with IT Alliance, and shattered into factions blaming each other after IT was conquered rather than face up to the facts in these posts.
The greater irony is that some of these line members who dared express dissent went on to much more siginificant EVE careers than the BoB Old Guard (Waagaa, Dianabolic, et al) who mostly just quit the game; Yaay went on to join the Northern Coalition and lead fleets in multiple wars, and is still a factor in the game (RISE peptalk jokes and all) while his bosses who refused to accept fault have been consigned to the dustbin of EVE history.
In one of the greater ironies of the game, EXE eventually ended up splintering from the BoB block after the IT Alliance fiasco, I befriended Mo’chusile, and now they are my allies.
This article originally appeared on TheMittani.com, written by The Mittani.
