Co2 declares war on The Imperium

2017-03-23

Now with extra advanced notice

In a somewhat surprising turn of events, Co2 has announced that they are “at war with the Goon Swarm Federation, The Imperium“. Now a call for war is definitely not the surprising element here. It is rather, surprising that Co2 have decided to announce this one, which is in stark contrast to their previous form. Historically Co2 have been inclined to simply turn on their allies with mere minutes notice. Perhaps this treatment is something that they simply reserve for their allies and not those who they have already betrayed.

You can listen to the whole Co2 State of the Alliance / Declaration of War here.

If you should not wish to listen to the whole thing I have taken the liberty of covering the key points from their SOTA, with a touch of history thrown in.

Right off the bat, and for almost 20 minutes, Gigx pushes the new armour carrier doctrine. There is a fair bit of talk here about Ship Reimbursement Program details such as “would fighters be reimbursed?” or “will cap boosters be reimbursed?”. These are generally met with a “stop being poor” response from Gigx.

Heading to war

Gigx then makes the “AT WAR” announcement. Gigx states that The Imperium is working on lowering ADMs in Impass in order to prepare for an invasion. As such he is rather insistent that ADMs have to go up to level 6 for all Co2 space. He further expands on this to say that it is “Hornet Squad”, a special interests group within The Imperium that has been sent to mess with Co2 sov.

As is typical in this kind of statement Gigx goes on to recall the events of their recent past where they were fighting “all of Eve” for three months. This must have been a war that went unreported as there had not been any articles that I am aware of on this matter. I do remember Co2 “fooling” everyone with an unmanned and unfitted Keepstar. Then for the second timer, they mainly stayed tethered. For the final Keepstar timer, they decided to go and shoot at XIX battleships instead of defending their Keepstar. I also remember that Co2 would fight with everything that they had for Tribute. Then how they would fight to retake Tribute. Of course, we all know that the reality of this one is that they left their longstanding home in the North far faster than The Imperium did. But leaders are allowed to revise their own history in order to placate their line members.

Assurances

Co2 line members were reassured of their victory. Gigx has worked out what the main weapon of The Imperium is. According to Gigx the “main Goon weapon” is talking via the Metashow and their Fireside chats. He also added that the “Goons” did not fight in any of their wars so know a lot less about sov than Co2 do.

Instructions are also given for Co2 members to send cloaky interceptors and bombers to the heartland of The Imperium, Delve. These are to have cloaks, scrams, and cynos fitted. This is in preparation for the Co2 black ops group being sent that way.

Gigx was then questioned as to who else will be joining Co2 in this war, for instance, Test or FCON. In his reply, Gigx says that he is expecting help from The Legacy Coalition as well as from others. As is often the case with Gigx, he was not overly specific in his reply.

There was some talk of strategy with the attacking of random citadels around Catch that are owned by The Imperium. Gigx simply said that these were not under the sov control of Co2 so he did not care. Gigx was keen to point out that they had set a timer for the 4-07MU system in Catch for an IHub owned by The Imperium. He went on further to say that as this is set to a US timezone he was not sure if he would follow through with its assault. By the time this article is published it is very likely that the fate of the 4-07MU IHub will already have been decided.

History

During this SOTA, one member recounted a story from a fleet that Gigx was on one and a half years ago. During this fleet, as the member told it, Gigx said: “don’t worry guys, some time we are going to kill goons“. This story was not corrected in any way by Gigx. This only gets a mention here as it is in these moments that a greater clarity can be gained. With this small story and the fact that it was not rebuked, it seems to prove that Co2 were far from the loyal coalition member that they insisted they were.

The membership numbers for Co2 rose once they set up a safer home in Impass. This fact was not lost on Gigx and he stressed the importance of going on all strategic fleets. As is usual there was the veiled threat of consequences for those that did not perform suitably.

It seems that Gigx has matured in the last year. He made it clear that he was not able to tell other alliances how to respond and can only do this for his own alliance. This is quite different from his stance leading up to the Co2 betrayal of The Imperium. At that time he was very insistent on what others should be doing to aid Co2 despite the plans of The Imperium to base from Saranen.

Gigx was quite keen to underline that the “Goons started this first”. It is not completely clear, though, how this is the case. Gigx mentioned a squad looking to lower ADMs although no attacks on Co2 sov have been reported of any note. Additionally, Gigx failed to mention the numerous Co2 fleets that have been reported in Delve. Finally, there are no sov timer events for Impass at all as it stands.

As ever the real reasons for this war will probably remain hidden and lost. I am sure that this time, The Imperium is most grateful to Co2 for deciding to announce this war so far in advance. Especially when compared to their last declaration of war against The Imperium. With it almost being a year to the day when Co2 betrayed their long-standing allies, you have to wonder if Co2 just misses The Imperium. I for one am not expecting great things to come from this supposed war. It feels more like a bitter ex, pining for attention near to an anniversary where they did so much wrong.

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Comments

  • Rhivre

    I am still not sure what is going on tbh, are CO2 invading Delve after this declaration?

    March 23, 2017 at 6:07 PM
    • Rammel Kas Rhivre

      They have sent around 4 bombers around to try molest anything in space. And a few of them have enough words to spam local. That’s been about it for the most part. No cyno’s on the ones we caught so far.

      March 23, 2017 at 7:02 PM
    • Jump Clone Rhivre

      Considering CO2 past love with really big toys, the new gen of theirs should soon get out of the iron, but shouldn’t be ready yet.

      March 24, 2017 at 4:44 AM
    • Ew Eww Rhivre

      It wasnt a declaration of war, goons are entosising catch and herassing Impass, our response is to do the same. Concidering that they got 50 stratioses + 20 other ships in impass they accomplish astonishingly nothing, and those “4 bombers” in Delve have killed a load of excavator drones, MTUs, other PVE stuff. It is an announcement of an armed conflict, a cold war if anything. Not a “war war”. There will be no invasion of Delve, and there probably wont be any invasion of Impass. There will be operations to disrupt members PVE activities.

      Its the MTU war!

      March 24, 2017 at 4:48 PM
      • So the opposite of what Gigx said then?

        March 25, 2017 at 5:18 AM
      • Gerd L. Plüü Ew Eww

        So, goons are not doing anything to you, and in response you are announcing that you will retaliate by also doing nothing in return, and that you will win doing this?

        March 25, 2017 at 1:16 PM
  • Markonius Porkbutte

    Circle of Two are an extremely honorable and brave bunch that will surely rid the galaxy of the goonswarm pandemic once and for all. I for one will be rooting for GiGx as I’m sure this will surely TEST everything he has built as one of the Guardians of the Galaxy.. Hopefully there will be a mercenary coalition who can also help as I’m sure there will be a huge spectre of fleets and other hordes piling on. Best of luck to all of you.

    March 23, 2017 at 6:23 PM
    • zander exvirus Markonius Porkbutte

      You know your on a goon website? lol

      and you sound like your a north Korean propagandist

      March 23, 2017 at 8:45 PM
    • This needs more appreciation

      March 24, 2017 at 1:07 AM
  • darrkwolf

    Chances are that Seraph IX Basarab will write a piece about this discussing views that nobody cares about. Like he always does. Isn’t that an obsession? Its an interesting POV. Will be interesting to see how this plays out on reddit.

    March 23, 2017 at 6:33 PM
    • Markonius Porkbutte darrkwolf

      I think that is a bit unkind towards Seraph, He is one of the brightest minds of our generation of EVE players who actually KNOWS the truth about how evil and rotten Goonswarm is. The LAMEstream eve media just wants to silence him because its a cartel of Goons and Pandemics. DON’T BE SHEEPLE!

      March 23, 2017 at 6:36 PM
      • … He is definitely not one of the “Brightest minds of our generation of EVE players.” Though as you have provided a statement can you now back it up?

        I can back up mine:
        He has been posting about how bad goonswarm is nearly every single month since 2013. So please explain to me how that is not a obsession?

        March 23, 2017 at 6:44 PM
        • Markonius Porkbutte darrkwolf

          It’s dedication, not obsession.

          March 23, 2017 at 7:27 PM
    • Daito Endashi darrkwolf

      I enjoy reading Seraph’s articles. I don’t have to agree to find his mockery entertaining to read.

      March 23, 2017 at 8:00 PM
  • Alaric Faelen

    CO2 is still around?

    March 23, 2017 at 6:58 PM
    • darrkwolf Alaric Faelen

      Yes down in the south. Old SW space.

      March 23, 2017 at 7:25 PM
  • Pew Pew

    “It feels more like a bitter ex, pining for attention near to an anniversary where they did so much wrong.”

    This whole article was sizzling with bitchiness, love it.

    March 23, 2017 at 8:13 PM
  • Gee

    aww isnt that cute

    March 23, 2017 at 9:02 PM
  • Shingly

    motherfuckers gettin rused in this thread :munch:

    March 23, 2017 at 11:30 PM
  • WMWMWMWMWMWMWMWMWMW

    hahahaha didn’t even show up to the first fight

    death to CO2

    March 24, 2017 at 12:29 AM
  • Erick Asmock

    Sarcasm for the sarcastically impaired.

    March 24, 2017 at 1:23 AM
  • Poleman

    Not sure if the author is just ignorant or blatantly lying lol

    March 24, 2017 at 2:20 AM
    • nummer3 Poleman

      It’s propaganda lol, what do you think. Or maybe he just forgot to mention that Impass is being camped by goons in cloaky Stratioses and Asteros for a week now lol

      March 24, 2017 at 8:14 AM
    • Rammel Kas Poleman

      Don’t think he’s lying on any point at all. This is one of the guys who get real eyes on things in space. And things in space have been really tepid so far. They speak of an invasion of cloaky things and interceptors. We saw 4 such things most of last night EU to early US TZ. We caught and nailed a few of them who got careless. No cynos on them at all. Just torps, cloak and ballistics in the lows. Like they expect some PVE style shoot. Not even a mobile depot to suggest refits. The idiot even linked his fit in local bless him.

      Interested to see what their weekend warrior bench looks like now. Impression I have of them hands-on is rather small. Hardly a blip compared to the usual noise and traffic we get in any event. They might as well just wardec and go camp Rens and be more effective at this rate.

      March 24, 2017 at 4:34 PM
      • Poleman Rammel Kas

        You don’t have to believe me or him, just check Zkillboard and logs, GSF started entosing CO2 sov almost three weeks ago, sent the cloakies to Impass with entosis links a week before the meeting took place and formed to destroyed a CO2 ihub days before the meeting took place also. The law of cause and effect disagrees with this article.

        There’s nothing worse than swallowing your own propaganda. CO2 are not fighters for freedom and GSF aren’t backstabbed charity members.

        March 24, 2017 at 5:13 PM
        • Rammel Kas Poleman

          Interesting that you seem to have such a selective grasp on time. I was on those fleets who tried desperately to defend GigX’s piss poor decisions before M-O. Then M-O of course where he finally had the balls to at least admit what he was, even when he hid it under all that bluster.

          Then the Fortezar they shot when CO2 got down here. Which necessitated ramping up operations and blowing up those initial Fortizars in F4R on move op day. The fact TEST had a NIP all lined up and ready UNTIL a CO2 FC fucked it up for everyone. You know… I have a feeling this spineless bullshit and hiding under other people’s skirts won’t stop unless someone glasses CO2 from nullsec. I bet they still have plenty of those supers they sneaked out from under PL’s camp hidden in their new territories. These people can’t help themselves but use them badly.

          March 24, 2017 at 5:52 PM
          • Poleman Rammel Kas

            I can’t tell about that, I wasn’t playing during WWB events. Anyways as I said you just have to check some kills and logs to see how wrong this article is about the facts.

            Its obvious you have to destroy enemies’ structures when you’re taking a given region, and during catch war I believe you were on the defenders’ side.
            More info on the TEST NIP and CO2 FC?

            March 25, 2017 at 12:56 AM
  • Jump Clone

    Taking your alliance mates to war to raise ADM : how could CO2 get this low ?

    March 24, 2017 at 4:41 AM
  • C02lol

    It’s just going to be another pile in. I’ll be surprised if it’s just C02… Of course FCON’s fail coalition will join, Test will surely join, and Drone Walkers unless they rather rat. I expect NC and PL will come later, hopefully as a third party, but looking out how they helped C02 out before, I doubt it. Then you got Triumvirate, XIX and Solar, who will join if there’s juicy things to kill, or just Grrr Goons thing. Honestly, this is just going to be another ‘most of eve’ vs Goons again… and if that’s the case, they’ll just retreat back to low sec and wait. I guess the only allies Goons may have are Red Alliance and Stain Coalition, but that’s not enough. I actually feel bad for them, everyone just keeps picking on them.

    March 24, 2017 at 6:45 AM
  • Ur Stupid

    Okay so I expected this to be a factual article based on the SOTA, not a whiny article about C02’s past about why they would start this war in the first place.

    Still sounds butthurt about C02’s betrayal from the North.

    March 24, 2017 at 2:13 PM
    • Gee Ur Stupid

      sorry you expected a non contextualised dry drama free article written by a goon who hates co2?

      clearly you walked into the wrong bar buddy!

      March 24, 2017 at 2:18 PM
      • Ur Stupid Gee

        More like walked into the children’s play area… 😀

        March 24, 2017 at 2:22 PM
        • Gee Ur Stupid

          well its subjective buddy, you see what you want to see. speaks volumes about you more then us.

          March 24, 2017 at 2:36 PM
  • buttes

    space violence entosis a few structures and dunk a few fleets and GigX loses his fucking mind

    Space Violence. Best Violence

    March 25, 2017 at 4:04 PM
  • veneti

    Gigx was quite keen to underline that the “Goons started this first”. It is not completely clear, though, how this is the case. This is the case because you send 2 wana-be goon corps to camp our systems. You are all pussys with no dicks. No balls to fight. As for the HISTORY. Treason is not the same, as telling someone I’m not you pussy.

    March 27, 2017 at 9:37 AM
  • theseconddavid

    That’s what happens when you make enemies of everyone. Sadly, the Eastern Bloc is fighting on the Northern front, so they might not make it back if a cold war in Delve gets hot.

    March 27, 2017 at 6:58 PM
  • lol CO2

    Well, At least they gave a bit of notice this time. Normally turn midfight and set you red.

    March 29, 2017 at 8:45 PM