The Era of Chaos in the book ( as far as I have listened up to ) seriously fuck with the normal expected rules of physics – everything we think we know goes out of the window – This is exatcly what CCP is doing. It really shakes thing up, just staying safe/alive is hard work. The method is different but the end effect sounds exactly the same.

Didn’t know that. Thank you. Better get listening to the rest 🙂

You put “force” in quotes. Who are you quoting? Devilish never said anything about forcing anything. You entitled asshats who can’t learn to counterplay cry when daddy CCP doesn’t fix shit for you. Devilish is implying that a wormholer wouldn’t know what he’s talking about. They can’t get dropped via cyno, they have no local, there are few entrances to their systems, and thus it is quite a bit safer and takes fewer people to monitor that safety than it does in NS. NS players have played by CCP rules and mechanics and they’ve done it in a way to make resource gathering relatively safe. The amount of isk available has nothing to do with it. You’re just another moron with another idea about how to fix this game. The bottom line is when one player, like you, sees that others are doing it better, your entitled ass get’s angry that you can’t have the same shit because your group refuses to engage in appropriate counter play. You are so blind to the ideas that form your assertion that you aren’t aware that you are doing the same thing Devilish Ledoux accused the author of…trying to opine on another’s game play style when yours does not give you the experience to comment on it nor does it appear you know anything or care enough to do anything about countering it. Why must you reduce the safety of NS? Do you think NS players will not find a way to readjust and achieve the same level of safety we have now (that level of safety btw is created by the presence of corp/alliance members who choose to participate in rescue and response efforts)? Your response is full of assumption and arrogance and I can speak for a lot of nulsec players who think you people that “have all the answers” are full of shit, every time, all the time. Learn to counter-play and perhaps you’ll reduce the level of safety in NS to your liking.

Bottom line, the author is a wormholer making the argument that something is good when it isn’t. The larger nulblocs and entities that can defend their cyno will have fewer problems that those that are smaller and cannot. You are an embarrassment to yourself, your corp, and to this game. Harden the fuck up and quit your crying about things you do not understand fully.

“The amount of isk available to NS is obscene compared to its relative risk.”
Like the risk of being able to lose ships and materials in build worth 10’s of billions when a structure is popped? Like the ability to lose 10’s of billions worth of system upgrades and the effects of months if not years of sov payments if your space is taken? What risk exactly do you think Null doesn’t have? Caps and supers are killed under umbrellas all the time, ratters and miners were killed even when there was local daily. This whole “nullsec needs more risk” thing is a creation of small gang roamers angry they can’t kill a carrier or roq they find with a nano gang.

You’re a fucking idiot.

With no local in nullsec, it’s literally impossible to mitigate risk. Nullsec is not wormhole space: there are significantly more ways into and out of nullsec systems, and you can be hotdropped in nullsec systems. Are you actually going to suggest that players should maintain 24/7 watch over every single stargate in their space and keep running lists of hand-written notes about who was seen entering which systems at which times? Because that’s what it would take to keep yourself “safe” in nullsec. Literally one person loses eyes on one gate for thirty seconds, one Prospect or bomber or whatever slips in, and now you’re looking at getting 50-100 dudes in stealth bombers spontaneously appearing in system whenever they feel like it with absolutely zero warning. These bomber gangs can kill capital ships in less than a minute, to say nothing of what they will do to anything smaller. Please explain to me how it is ~ever~ safe to field any PvE ships at all under these circumstances?

CCP are basically doing everything short of deleting capital ships right now to force (yes, force) people not to use them for PvE, after spending years milking cash out of their playerbase by heavily incentivizing them to skill-inject and PLEX their way into capital ships for PvE.

Yes, the amount of resources you can farm with capitals in nullsec IS obscene, but you know who designed it that way? Fucking CCP, when everybody and their goddamn dog TOLD THEM AT THE TIME IT WAS A STUPID FUCKING IDEA. They made the decision to stick limitless resource nodes that were eminently farm-able by capitals into the game. THEY decided to make carriers do 2000 DPS and be able to kill anything down to frigate size. THEY decided to re-work the Rorqual into a ridiculous mining powerhouse.

They did it because it made them a ton of money by encouraging everybody to spend their way into “endgame” PvE setups. Now their greed has totally wrecked the in-game economy and caused nullsec-wide geopolitcal stagnation. Now CCP appear and hand out fifty capital PvE nerfs followed by “you can’t have local” and “you can’t call for help”: the Rorqual was already fucking useless after the local nerf because you literally can not field excavator drones anymore, and now they’re going to charge everyone 300m per cyno to move around and making it so you need a dedicated cyno character to stalk your own capital ships around in order to summon help, all because they’re too fucking timid or too lazy to correct the core elements of their game mechanics that encouraged this behavior in the first place. They won’t delete Rorquals, they’ll just make it literally impossible not to lose billion-isk drones while you’re mining. They won’t re-design PvE so that smaller ships are more suited to it than capitals, or re-design capitals themselves: they’ll just make it cost 300m isk per cyno plus having an alt character to move them around. And all to please a bunch of fucking autistic green-killboard circlejerking reddit incels: you don’t see fucking covert cynos or blackops bridges or stealth bombers getting nerfs. I suppose they consider teleporting frigate gangs that can murderzone a capital ship in under a minute while the whole fleet costs less than the Rorqual’s drones, “Balanced?” It’s fucking ludicrous.

That is hilarious coming from near perfect safety for WHs gang. People who’s idea of a good fight is dropping 50 t3s or similar on a single ship and then crying on reddit when friends show up.

What is amazing is that idiots at CCP are actually listening to the most risk averse group in the game about how all other parts need more risk while at the same time the only stuff they fly is high range super easy disengage comps. Because nothing says elite pvp and risk loving like running away as soon as there you actually have someone shooting back.

Like many have said before, NS is “safe” due to the people living there, if all our pilots thought that the intel channels get filled with info automatically and none post if they see neuts in a system then the intel system doesn’t work and you would have zero intel.
So please for the love of god stop bitching that NS is safe, it is relatively safe due to the effort put in by players.

Exactly who Newbie was talking about…fucks like you that think NS is inherently safe. A group of players made it safe…and this cyno change alters our ability to crush idiots like you. We will figure out a way to continue to kill amateurs like you who think there should be no risk to your game play simply because you ask for it…earn it bitch and you can have it.

You mean how dare CCP allow thousands of enemy players who’ve invested trillions of isk in ships and man a round-the-clock standing defense fleet keep me from killing whatever I want with my teleporting, cloak-warping frigate that costs less than a hundred mil?

Oh, right: when you put it that way it sounds pretty dumb!

“…ALL WHO DARE OPPOSE ME”: because a fifty-man bomber hotdrop gang should be the definition of an unstoppable force lolololol keep trolling.

And this is why it is so hard to take you people seriously. You have no farking clue what you’re talking about.

Check the killboard for Delve and see how many Rorquals, Carriers, and supercapitals die every day (and not all of them to stupidity) as people learn the hard way that nullsec is not safe or endlessly profitable like you retards claim.

True for things like Incursions and move ops. But it makes ratting or even just moving a capital around a real pain. Conveniently cured by throwing more money at CCP. And not even just a cheap (but still omega) cyno alt. Oh no, alts with the SP to fly recons and BLOPS…..so in other words- buy plex to purchase skill injectors- otherwise your stupid cyno alt is going to take months to cook. It was sort of an agreement with CCP- you basically have to have paid alt subs just to fly capitals, but at least those alts could be cheap and ready to use quickly.

Now it’s even more important to have alts, and those alts need high end skills just to fly the hull. Tinfoil hat in place, this all seems like another way to bilk players. If you want to play with the big boy toys in Eve, it will cost you.

Because we all know that is the answer. Just create those alts, buy those skill injectors, run that credit card. Multibox a bunch of clients just so you can effectively use one character.

CCP doesn’t want to make it harder to use capitals. They just want to make it more expensive.