How renting has changed my view of the sandbox


For most of my four year EVE career, I have mainly been a PVPer. The ISK I made through ratting and the market was only ever made to be put back into losing more ships. The concept of investing in PVE ships and skills was something I left to the “care bears” because there were more important things, like blowing people up, to take care of. Eventually, as my total skill points rose, I had to find ways to fund the addition of battleships, tech two ships, and even capitals. I routinely broke the golden rule of “Don’t fly what you can’t afford to lose”, but the rush was great enough that it didn’t matter. After four years of living from space check to space check, I landed myself in a corporation (with a few old friends) that decided to explore the industrial side of EVE.

As I have only really seen the PVP side of EVE, I was skeptical when I got the invite to join a renter corporation. Coming from a PVP background there is a certain negative connotation associated with renters. People around me viewed them as useless ratters who stumbled out of highsec and into some major null bloc’s wallet, so becoming one of them took a while to get used to. I’m not writing this to tell you I have uncovered a massive underground renter PVP powerhouse, but I have come to realize that renters are more diverse than people give them credit for. This isn’t to say that they are a force to be reckoned with, but when you get a group of players together that make more ISK than they have sense to use, you end up with interesting interstellar regions.

I would categorize the people I’ve met into a few basic groups: there are the people that are just there to make ISK (and want no business with anyone around them), the alt corps of veterans trying to fund their PVP habits (those with more ISK than sense who view the loss of their ship as an opportunity to build a new one), and the “retirement home”. The first three are self-explanatory but the “retirement home” is what I found interesting. The term originated from the way players jokingly refer to some of the older groups in the game, like Pandemic Legion or NC., as a retirement home for veterans. In the same sense, there are people in rental alliances that have ‘retired’ and are now in the ISK making business. By no means do I think these people are here to stay, but for long-time PVPers, it may just be an adventure into another side of EVE they have not yet tried.

All of these groups lead to an interesting dynamic when people decide to roam their space and gank some easy ratting targets. I’ve found that, more often than not, players are willing to jump in at the drop of a hat for some action if a friendly carrier or rorqual are tackled. Sometimes people are just stir crazy from ratting all day, but others genuinely want to save friendlies when they get into a bit of trouble. These people are living the dream: they’ve found themselves a spot in the galaxy where worrying about sov mechanics, and having to defend their home, is not an issue. Of course, this all comes at a price, but for any group bigger than a couple of people it’s a drop in a bucket.

All in all, I have found my time spent as a renter to be more enjoyable than I originally imagined. I don’t see myself staying a renter in the long term, but this experience has opened me up and helped me realize that there is a lot more to EVE that I haven’t yet taken part in. And if you take a step outside of your comfort zone, you will find there is a lot more to the sandbox than you originally thought.

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  • elaqure

    Thanks for the interesting perspective. It’s always good to hear a new take on something that may be familiar to another player of the game. Keep ’em coming!

    March 18, 2017 at 4:35 AM
  • Pew Pew

    Is this an advert? 🙂

    Sounds cool man. TBH paying to have no stress about strat ops doesn’t seem at all unreasonable.

    March 19, 2017 at 8:53 AM
    • Sylphinja the Dark Rose Pew Pew

      Probably an advert to the Goon Renting Agency.

      Even though, he’s got a point. There’s a certain thrill in flying what you can’t afford to lose and that gives you purpose. Once you lose it, you’ll spend X time recuperating your loss and building/putting together a new ship to lose at some time after that.. and the cycle of death/rebirth continues.

      March 19, 2017 at 11:00 AM
      • Something I always wanted to try was to become a PVP mendicant monk.

        So basically give away all a characters possessions and then go to Jita and just beg for ships. When anyone gives you a ship you go out and fly it until you die and then you go back to begging. Record the whole thing and upload it to youtube with commentary as a PVP lesson + learning experience for yourself.

        It would be kind of humiliating (as in the western world begging is seen as one of the lowest human activities) however it would also be tremendously freeing and thrilling and surprising and interesting.

        It would also be a really good lesson in non-attachment.

        Never had the time to do it though, too busy with all my mundane, worldly cares.

        March 19, 2017 at 4:25 PM
        • Jorge Juan Puente Pew Pew


          March 20, 2017 at 2:50 PM
        • anony Pew Pew

          isn’t this what zarvox is doing?

          March 21, 2017 at 7:29 PM
      • I had no idea we rent out. It’s NC. and PL thing

        March 19, 2017 at 10:11 PM
  • Erick Asmock

    Interesting article.

    March 19, 2017 at 2:26 PM
  • elaqure

    Thanks for the interesting share, Cody. We look forward to hearing what other interesting adventures you might have as a renter!

    March 19, 2017 at 11:21 PM
  • theseconddavid

    I have never understood the renter hate. It is a play style. People may call ratting and mining mundane, but I have been on more than just a few POS bash, citadel bash, and entosis ops that were just mind numbing. Really, renting is almost the logical evolution of this type of sandbox. We’ve grown beyond the idea of a tribe claiming and working the land to a system of fuedal lords and serfs working the land and giving a tithe for protection to the lord. Perhaps a rise of nation states will be next.

    March 20, 2017 at 7:16 PM
  • Former renter.

    But yes the retirement option sounds awesome

    For me i tried it as a renter whilst we had a huge war going. And it meant my minions had a place to chill and enjoy the game in relative peace.

    March 24, 2017 at 2:03 PM